James Tanner: Coyotes, Sentators and les Habitants Pump up the Jam!!

James Tanner: Coyotes, Sentators and les Habitants
Pump up the Jam!!
- James_Tanner

Mike Smith injured? Sounds like you need Josh Bailey.

Well, Rieder isn't that bad. I have to be surprised that Martinook had better corsi right?

edit: fully agree on Chychrun, would be perfect to let him make his minutes on the third pairing.

The DJ was right...
That song would ruin a good party.

I think Ottawa is a bunch better than you, or most other Leaf fans, give them credit for. They've been a better club for the better part of ten years, I know that must make you angry?

Nice dig at the Nucks, they're just screwing themselves out of a good lottery position

The DJ was right...
That song would ruin a good party.
- mlindsay

DJ was clearly wrong.

DJ was clearly wrong.
- DutchSenators

Wedding couple likely requested they not play anything that would be featured in an 80's coming of age comedy.

Tanner have you caught any Rangers hockey yet? If so curious what you think so far

An OT is most definitely a loss when it comes because you couldn't hold a four goal lead. This is why your comments about Toronto being a playoff team are unlikely to be proven correct.
Watching your golden-boy Gardiner pinching in at the offensive blue line in the 3rd period when his team is up by 3 goals was frustrating even for someone who doesn't care about the Leafs. These are the things that your analytics don't seem to measure very well and the reason people who value the eye-test know he has much growing to do.

You would rather be 1-0-2 than 3-0. It's comments like that is when you lose the little credibility you might have.

Mike Smith injured? Sounds like you need Josh Bailey.
- eichiefs9

Ha! One day he'll get traded and you'll just end up feeling so empty inside.

Well, Rieder isn't that bad. I have to be surprised that Martinook had better corsi right?

edit: fully agree on Chychrun, would be perfect to let him make his minutes on the third pairing.
- DutchSenators

I think of Doan, Martinook and Richardson, Martinook is the best player.

I think Ottawa is a bunch better than you, or most other Leaf fans, give them credit for. They've been a better club for the better part of ten years, I know that must make you angry?

Nice dig at the Nucks, they're just screwing themselves out of a good lottery position
- LeftCoaster

Appreciate the love but 1 playoff series win in the past 10 years says they are anything but a better club. I don't think they will be bottom feeders like Tanner has suggested. They will battle for that 6-8 spot which has basically been the teams end goal since uncle Euge took over.

Don't get me wrong, they could make some noise if they can keep up the balanced scoring (4 games in is a very small sample size) but they are far far away from being a contender.

I think Ottawa is a bunch better than you, or most other Leaf fans, give them credit for. They've been a better club for the better part of ten years, I know that must make you angry?

Nice dig at the Nucks, they're just screwing themselves out of a good lottery position
- LeftCoaster

I promise you Ottawa is not better than we think. They allow way too many goals and chances against. Does it make me angry they've been better than the Leafs for ten years? Not really. I can take solace in Matthews, Marner, Nylander.

Appreciate the love but 1 playoff series win in the past 10 years says they are anything but a better club. I don't think they will be bottom feeders like Tanner has suggested. They will battle for that 6-8 spot which has basically been the teams end goal since uncle Euge took over.

Don't get me wrong, they could make some noise if they can keep up the balanced scoring (4 games in is a very small sample size) but they are far far away from being a contender.
- SENS 613

Was referring to Sens vs Leafs, the Senators have most definitely been the better club for a decade, no matter how much Leaf fans make fun of them

You would rather be 1-0-2 than 3-0. It's comments like that is when you lose the little credibility you might have.
- Greenbacks1975

Come on. Is that what it said? Process > Results.

I promise you Ottawa is not better than we think. They allow way too many goals and chances against. Does it make me angry they've been better than the Leafs for ten years? Not really. I can take solace in Matthews, Marner, Nylander.
- James_Tanner

Wait until Guy gets his system thru to them, they'll improve in that department. Too many bad habits from the knuckleheads they had in there before.

An OT is most definitely a loss when it comes because you couldn't hold a four goal lead. This is why your comments about Toronto being a playoff team are unlikely to be proven correct.
Watching your golden-boy Gardiner pinching in at the offensive blue line in the 3rd period when his team is up by 3 goals was frustrating even for someone who doesn't care about the Leafs. These are the things that your analytics don't seem to measure very well and the reason people who value the eye-test know he has much growing to do.
- Tonybere

Actually what happens is that you over value the importance of one mistake, and ignore thousands of subtle things that happen over the course of the night.

There are over ten thousand events to track in any given hockey game. When you watch a game, you remember significant plays only.

The odd mistake by Gardiner (and watch any player for significant time and you'll notice they all make bad plays because its the NHL and if you didn't you'd be Bobby Orr) doesn't detract from the fact that he shuts down whoever he plays with and is one the highest impact defensive players in the NHL.

If you read all the six major Leafs blogs, I believe 5 of them have the editorial stance that Gardiner is the Leafs best Dman.

Tanner have you caught any Rangers hockey yet? If so curious what you think so far
- mrn22

I watched the first period of the Rangers Sharks game on Monday, and I was impressed, especially with Kreider. I think the Sharks are one of the better teams in the league and I was impressed with how they shut them down, especially on the PK (and especially bc I don't think the Rangers D is very good).

Still, it was only one period so hard to add anything of value other than I liked what I saw of Kreider.

Actually what happens is that you over value the importance of one mistake, and ignore thousands of subtle things that happen over the course of the night.

There are over ten thousand events to track in any given hockey game. When you watch a game, you remember significant plays only.

The odd mistake by Gardiner (and watch any player for significant time and you'll notice they all make bad plays because its the NHL and if you didn't you'd be Bobby Orr) doesn't detract from the fact that he shuts down whoever he plays with and is one the highest impact defensive players in the NHL.

If you read all the six major Leafs blogs, I believe 5 of them have the editorial stance that Gardiner is the Leafs best Dman.
- James_Tanner

So... You're saying he makes his playing partner worse?

Come on. Is that what it said? Process > Results.
- James_Tanner

Then what was your point to this comment. Yes we all know the Canucks are on the downside of a cycle. They aren't as good as thier management thinks they are, or hopes they are. But they are probably not as bad as every blogger says they are either. They have had a decent start to the season which obviously won't last. But for what reason do you need to make a dig at the canucks record in a blog about an Ott vs Ari game other than to troll the Canuck fans. That's what i take from your comment.

yeah an overtime loss is definitely a loss. that's why it's referred to as an "overtime loss", not an "overtime not a loss". means you weren't good enough to win.

I watched the first period of the Rangers Sharks game on Monday, and I was impressed, especially with Kreider. I think the Sharks are one of the better teams in the league and I was impressed with how they shut them down, especially on the PK (and especially bc I don't think the Rangers D is very good).

Still, it was only one period so hard to add anything of value other than I liked what I saw of Kreider.
- James_Tanner

Fair point. The D is obviously the weak point but I would be downright shocked if in a month or so there isnt a move made to improve it. Still have to buyout Girardi in the offseason but the roster as a whole looks pretty good. that F group looks deeper than most teams

Then what was your point to this comment. Yes we all know the Canucks are on the downside of a cycle. They aren't as good as thier management thinks they are, or hopes they are. But they are probably not as bad as every blogger says they are either. They have had a decent start to the season which obviously won't last. But for what reason do you need to make a dig at the canucks record in a blog about an Ott vs Ari game other than to troll the Canuck fans. That's what i take from your comment.
- Greenbacks1975

The point of the comment was that I would rather be the Leafs than the Canucks, despite the loss or their seemingly opposite records.

We need to retire the word "troll". What do you want? Boring, whitewashed game summaries that only compliment other teams in order to keep all fans of the game feeling fuzzy and secure and happy with their vicarious fantasy fulfillment?

yeah an overtime loss is definitely a loss. that's why it's referred to as an "overtime loss", not an "overtime not a loss". means you weren't good enough to win.
- DoubleDown

That's sort of how a certain walking jack-o-lantern would answer the question - take mostly true parts of the answer and then give the most basic interpretation possible.

Obviously, on a technical, language-based level, a loss is a loss.

However, in the NHL, a loss in over-time is worth 50% of a win.

It is worth the same as the artist formerly known as a tie.

It is like Prince's soundtrack of Batman - it's not great, but it's still Prince.

Also, 3 vs 3 overtime is the same as a coin-flip. There is no "deserves" to win in OT and no reason you should be upset if you lose in OT or a shottout, since you literally could do nothing wrong and lose ten in a row, so random is the shootout/ OT.

Can you be mad that you blew a 4-0 lead and had to go to overtime in the first place? Sure that is at least a defendable stance.

But that being said, if I dressed six rookies I would expect them to blow a few games, since in any other league, if the team is down 4-0 and starts to make a comeback,. you start trying again for five minutes and put them away.

Also, as I am also wont to say, if your goalie loses you the game, who cares? If it happens all the time, get a new goalie. But if, as is the case here, and in Arizona,. you have an above average goalie, then you just realize that happens sometimes.